Tandy Professional Forum   Section: Private For-Sales
Subject: Old Tandy to Sell   Total messages: 7
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#63006   1 Reply   04/07/97   07:44:03
From: Nelson D. Coleman, 71550,2674
To:   All

After having been in one location for 24 years, I plan to move to
a new location within 20 days.  This means that I will be
disposing of all manner of old computer hardware and software
working and non working.  If you would like FREE software and
limited equipment in the Radio Shack/Tandy lines, email me at the
address below.  Machines covered: Model II/12/16/6000, Tandy
2000

TERMS: Boxes of software in a monitor sized box, no itemization
but segregated as much as possible by machine.  Will ship UPS
COLLECT for freight and a $10.00 packing charge.

Please respond privately to my CIS address or preferably to
emerald@bright.net .

....ndc


#63009   Reply to #63006   1 Reply   04/13/97   19:49:31
From: Frank Poirrier, 71435,1363
To:   Nelson D. Coleman, 71550,2674

I need to know what a complete, functioning Model 2000 is worth?
Can you help me?

Frank Poirrier


#63013   Reply to #63009   1 Reply   04/15/97   21:16:31
From: Kevin Tekel N2WTO, 76362,2023
To:   Frank Poirrier, 71435,1363

I just got a complete Tandy 2000 system, and a complete TRS-80
Model I system. Total price: $0.00. The previous owners even
drove quite a distance to drop off the stuff. It all still works
fine.

The 2000 is worth almost nothing today, due to its about 10% IBM
compatibility. You can't even use regular MS-DOS. You are stuck
with old old Tandy 2000 DOS 2.11.xx! However, you can install a
MFM hard drive and up to 768 Kb of memory, so if you have access
to Tandy 2000 software you might have a system that can actually
do stuff other than collect dust and serve as a very large paper
weight.

So... I'd say a complete Tandy 2000 system, with hard drive,
maxed out memory, color monitor, and a bunch of software could
sell for $50, but probably only diehard TRS-80/Tandy fans would
be interested in it.

On the other hand, the old Tandy 1000 series has much more hope.
They can use IBM PC expansion boards etc. and they're about 95%
compatible with IBM PC software. In fact I still have a 1000 and
it's great for playing those old CGA arcade games on our
big-screen TV.


#63015   Reply to #63013   1 Reply   04/16/97   16:39:07
From: Andrew Webber, 70272,1055
To:   Kevin Tekel N2WTO, 76362,2023

Good post, Kevin.

>>>The previous owners even drove quite a distance to drop off
the stuff. It all still works fine.>>>

A sign of how we feel about the T2K!  And how much we'll do to
keep them in use.

>>>You are stuck with old old Tandy 2000 DOS 2.11.xx!>>>

The bright side (and I'm not being sarcastic) is that if you can
live with the old Tandy-specific software (or well-behaved
MS-DOS, i.e. uses BIOS calls), it will run as fast as today's
software on today's machines, because the software is so tightly
written.  I still use Wordstar 5.5 sometimes because editing is
so fast (but a lot less often than I used to).

>>>They can use IBM PC expansion boards etc.>>>

"Sure, but not full-size 13" boards, only 10" boards, and most
useful boards are full-length."  Remember when that was a serious
limitation?  At a computer show on the weekend, a couple of guys
had boxes of old stuff.  Those 13" cards are massive!  (And funny
to see a 13" network card or 13" serial card).

>>>about 95% compatible with IBM PC software>>>

I think it was 100% compatible with the PCJr?  Three-voice sound,
etc.

andrew


#63021   Reply to #63015   1 Reply   04/17/97   21:57:17
From: Kevin Tekel N2WTO, 76362,2023
To:   Andrew Webber, 70272,1055

>> I think it was 100% compatible with the PCJr?  Three-voice
sound, etc. <<

Well, software-wise, except for the PCjr's two cartridge (!)
slots. Hardware-wise, the PCjr was totally different than the PC
-- that's why everybody skipped over the PCjr and bought Tandy
1000's.

The 1000's sound capabilities are quite nice, but it can only
produce square waves (i.e. "computer" sound), so I still prefer
my Commodore 64, which also has 3 voices, but can produce
sawtooth and triangle waves in addition to sqaure and rectangular
waves; this all means that it acts almost like a real
synthesizer, and you can make *many* different sounds on it.

Anyway... 2000's are nice, but think of them as seperate
proprietary systems, not as IBM-compatibles, because they're not.


#63024   Reply to #63021   1 Reply   04/18/97   08:32:07
From: Andrew Webber, 70272,1055
To:   Kevin Tekel N2WTO, 76362,2023

>>>Anyway... 2000's are nice, but think of them as seperate
proprietary systems, not as IBM-compatibles, because they're
not.>>>

I guess I disagree a little with this, it was somewhat compatible
because almost all the software I used was not T2K-specific
(Wordstar, dBXL, GTPowercomm) and I installed it on my 386 and
even my Pentium in some cases.

I do agree that it was very non-standard on the hardware front,
except the MFM HDs.  But for a casual or new user today, it will
seem very proprietary.

andrew


#63025   Reply to #63024   04/18/97   21:46:23
From: Kevin Tekel N2WTO, 76362,2023
To:   Andrew Webber, 70272,1055

If it ain't broke, keep using it!

And if it is broken, fix it! :-)


